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Theatre Building

"I say go for it. I doubt you’ll find a lawyer who will take the case since there’s absolutely nothing illegal going on but I’m sure you know something I don’t so please go ahead and start the proceedings" ------Seems like this poster has a reading diability and wasnt able to understand what the previous post was saying......yup lets listen to this intelligent individual who just made ZERO sense. LMAO !
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Theatre building

Sue the city you ask? I say go for it. I doubt you’ll find a lawyer who will take the case since there’s absolutely nothing illegal going on but I’m sure you know something I don’t so please go ahead and start the proceedings. I need a good laugh 😆
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theater building

does anyone know if someone is going to sue the city. I will also help out if necessary. If this project is illegal, this is our only chance to stop this. wth is going on people !
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Comment

Be a mover. Be a shaker. Put your $ where your mouth is. Run for council. I’m sure you and your chronically can pony up a couple thousand dollars to buy a few signs and mail out some flyers. No big deal . We’re talking small town election. But of course your response will be that just because you’re unhappy doesn’t mean you can run or should for office. I got news for you- you can certainly do that here in Springs.
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Comment

Time for a major shakeup of the council with some members moving on. Maybe we will get a group that does not spend endless dollars on projects that are not needed.
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School Board

Petralanda has served the city for many years. This is his last term. Why shouldn’t he pursue other avenues? Last I checked people are free to do as they choose. Maybe you should go for his or even Zapata’s seat. Let’s see how you like it up there.
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School board

Follow the money They all say when campaigning oh Miami Springs this that. Yeah right first chance they make like road runner.
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jaime

not sure if true but theo just tweeted a message about jaime running for school board.so these mara and jimmy all sudden want move up?how much this cost City of miami spirng?
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Bain

He looks dazed. I said he first this man has dementia
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Fair Havens

How many Jews run Fairhavens?
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Fair Havens

Why does anyone think that there is going to be any change at this facility?
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Fair Havens

I still think that a period correct Pueblo style hotel; not to exceed the number of rooms presently at Fair Heavens would be just the ticket.    Someone mentioned that the Fair Heavens location is zoned residential; how could that be, has this place been in violation all that time?
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🐣 Don-t count your chickens before they hatch 🐣
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SENIOR CENTER

Bad weather.
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Senior Center

I wonder why the City cancelled the ground breaking 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔.
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Fair Havens

Just another one of the SOBs out to ruin our town.
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Theater

If a lawsuit is filed, count me in to donate. I know for a FACT many residents will donate too.
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Fair Haven

Are the Feds or the Bank going to take over this property???? How do we find this out. Everyone start researching now and be on extreme Hight alert on what goes on with this property. you have no idea the disaster that can happen. ESPINO, BAIN, and GARCIA (and his Boss) are working over time for this property with big ideas. They are SALIVATING ! Hopefully nothing will happen until next election
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Feds

Investigate what you MORON
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Cash Cow for a City

They will simply set it on fire call it a lightning strike or kids playing with fire just like they tried on the Curtiss mansion they never expected the walls to stay up on that one, or there would be no mansion there just another Hotel.
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Feds

Hope they go after City Hall ! Would love to see Bain and others arrested. Residents should call the Feds to investigate
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2012 Comprehensive Plan

is a process that determines community goals and aspirations in terms of community development-City has it on their website and read municode - The theater building on how it stands can not be built in our city
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Theater

The City will definitely take a risk and move forward in approving the permit. As they know NO ONE has the money for a Lawsuit.
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Theatre

What is a Comprehension Plan???
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Farirhavens

Leave it as is??? Its up to the new owners!!!
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Theater

I hope that as soon the city grants the developer a permit to build a Lawsuit is filed. They were warned at the meeting and through a letter that it goes against the comprehension plan. I heard that in September demolition begins
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Fairhavens

It is not zoned for hotels or commercial only multifamiliy. Im sure the zoning can be changed to allow a hotel, Im sure the surrounding neighbors would love you for it????
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Fair Havens

Leave it just as it is. Keep the residents and their families happy.
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Fair Havens

No Way!...So the developers can squeeze every inch of that property with about 100 cookie cutter or more homes right next to each and with no backyard. No Homes or Apartments. Leave the existing historic building for a hotel and resturants, demolish the other added buildings and use the green space for some parking but majority for a nice garden
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Fairhavens

Another option is to change the zoning to single family and allow a bunch of single family homes there!!!!
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Fair Havens

It would be nice to see it renovated into condos. Would be kind of cool.
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Farirhavens

Also since this is a historic site, they have to keep the current façade!!!
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fairhavens

Fairhavens property is zoned R3C which is multifamily residential, the nursing home use is grandfathered in. If anyone else buys it and does not want to use it as a nursing facility them the only think they can build is apartments and nothing the city can do about it unless you change the zoning for that property. And, our comp plan limits apartment units to 20 per acre in multifamily districts, since this property is almost 6 acres you could have about 120 apartments IF they have the parking for it which is next to impossible. They could build 80 apartments only and provide parking for those. That-s the bottom line!!!
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Cash Cow for a City

Here we go again, It seems a few have finally found a Cash Cow in our city, They just have to think of ingenious ways to deposit this income.
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Fair Havens

Now we will have Vultures wanting the property to building more apartments. Apparently Bain says that majority of residents constantly call him wanting more apartments and they approve any being proposed. Dam thats alot of calls. Over 7,000 residents constantly call him
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Miami Springs Conspiracies

The Russians used the FaceApp technology on Zavier to turn him into Billy Bain and Dan Espino is secretly Putin in disguise. (Now that it-s on the internet, it must be true!)
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Fair Havens

About time the story was posted.
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School Board

Maybe if Zapata gets elected to the School Board she can insist that the properties are kept, that the schools respect our ordinances and remove those ungodly banners from the fences.    Every school property in Miami Springs looks as if it belongs elsewhere.
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Fair Haven

Let the city purchase the property, tear down that dilapidated building and turn it into a green area park.
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The Pen

Pen nothing.... all you need is a Bulldozer and that historic home is gone. It has happened already in our town
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Fair Haven

So what happens to the property. The Government takes over and then sell the property dirt cheap. I-m sure Espino and developers are waiting and salivating for that moment. Time to be on High Alert on Espino, Bain, and Garcia (and his Boss) !
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The pen

The pen giveth and the pen taketh it away.      There are many ways to remove historical designations and protections.    There is even a way to remove the "Bird Sanctuary" designation from the city.     All it takes is will, time and $
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Fair Havens Owner Crook

The decision, issued July 1 in the U.S. District Court for the Southern District of Florida, was a denial of Esformes’ motion asking the court to acquit a jury’s verdict that the  ets were forfeitable. The judge’s order applies to Esformes’ interest in the operating companies for the following  isted living or skilled nursing properties: Eden Gardens in Miami, Fair Havens Center in Miami Springs, Flamingo Park Manor in Hialeah, Harmony Health Center in Kendall, North Dade Nursing and Rehabilitation Center in North Miami, Nursing Center at Mercy in Miami and the now-closed Oceanside Extended Care Center in Miami Beach.
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Fair Havens Big Time Tax Payer Thief

Philip Esformes, the Florida  isted living and skilled nursing facility owner found guilty in April of more than 20 charges in a case that the federal government described as “the largest single criminal healthcare fraud case ever brought against individuals by the Department of Justice,” must forfeit his interest in seven operating companies related to his facilities, a federal court has ruled. https:  www.mcknightsseniorliving.com home news esformes-must-forfeit-interest-in-long-term-care-operating-companies-judge-rules 
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Souder

(A) Generally. As provided herein, no development order or permit as defined in F.S. § 163.3164 shall be issued unless it is found that the development is consistent with the comprehensive plan and that the provision of roads, sanitary sewer, solid waste, drainage, potable water, and public recreation will be available at prescribed levels of service concurrent with the impact of the development on those facilities.____________ (B) Determining consistency with the comprehensive plan. If a development proposal is found to meet all of the requirements of this Code it shall be presumed to be consistent with the comprehensive plan in all respects except for compliance with the concurrency requirement of the comprehensive plan capital improvements element policy 4.1 and division (A) above. The City Manager, his designee, or any substantially affected person as defined in F.S. § 163.3213 may question the consistency of a development proposal with the comprehensive plan. If a question of consistency is raised, the person or board responsible for issuing the development order or permit shall make a determination of consistency or inconsistency in writing fully recited within the instrument or instruments do enting the development order or development permit.
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Souder

I seems like he is right: Central Business District Category: This category of land use is intended to foster a suburban downtown which will: 1) satisfy the frequent retail, personal and professional service needs and desires of persons residing and or working in Miami Springs and surrounding areas making up its market area; and 2) provide a specialty shopping restaurant entertainment destination for a large market area. This category may allow a wide range of convenience and comparison shopping facilities, restaurants, theaters and other compatible uses. Other uses permitted on land within this category could include business and professional office uses; residential uses on upper floors above retail, office and related uses; public parks; municipal buildings and facilities; and public utilities necessary to serve the uses within this category. Buildings within this category shall be limited to a floor area ratio of 1.0.
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Fair Haven

How the hell you know this? Doesnt the owner live in Illinois
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Fair havens

Owner got arrested.
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Charter

It-s in the City-s Comprehensive Plan
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Charter

Im still waiting for someone to tell me where in the Charter it talks about how many units can be built on a property that Mr Souder claims.......waiting....
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Fairhavens

No Historic building is safe in this city ! Any can be demolished.
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Theatre project

Yeah. Why havent they claimed easement. Or is this a timing thing. Or is this more lies
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Comment

Of course espino doesnt vote on ordinance changes. But is the mastermind behind the changes he proposes. Then teams with Bain and pushes for votes.
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Theatre project

So what happened to the Prescriptive Easement BS you crazys where spewing? Still waiting
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Fairhavens

Besides Fairhavens is a historic site like Stadnicks! Stop spreading BS
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Faiorhavens???

Is that the new conspiracy now by all the nutcases that post here? You are all losers...Remember a few years back " The Chinese are buying the golf course"
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Comment

Keep in mind that the city attorney does not make up ordinances and or resolutions without direction or guidance from the politicians. Then of course they have to p  them by majority vote.
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Fair Haven

I like the Hotel idea alot. A High End Hotel with a nice walk through landscape area and a restaurant or two And any addition has to be pure pueblo design to match. That I like, but NOT a completely paved lot with cheapy modern looking apartments like the freakin Theater
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Fair Haven

Actually that would be a very nice location to turn into a period correct hotel to match the Curtiss Mansion and the original HISTORCAL theme of Miami Springs. It would bring customers to the business on the circle and it would probably lead to an improvement of stores and restaurants in the down town area.
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City

So sad to see a city that is so loved setup the madness of residential downtown development. C-R A Z Y.
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R-3C district.

Keep an eye to see if this fat no neck Espino changes ordinances that will effect this district Sec. 150-062. - R-3C district.
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1 year and 9 month left

If somebody doesnt step it up and stop this city on getting away with their corruption. Major destruction is going to happen from now until elections. Keep an eye on Espino making ordinance changes again for Zoning like the one in Fair Haven and state its for all. This guy is completely rewriting our whole rule book
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Fair Haven

"The owner had to give it up due to corruption"... explain this please
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Fair Haven

Yup thats exactly whats happened happening. The owners have been approached to sell their property. Let see what happens. Im telling you Espino and Bain needs to go. This guy is distroying our town. I think everyone needs to contact the owner and tell them please dont sell
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Apartments & Homes as hotels.

Soon to come, Home rentals by the hour. Get it soon to come
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Fair Havens

Ok as we speak our city mafia is probably working with some developer to put a 300 low income apartments there just wait.
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Fair Havens

The owner had to give it up due to corruption. Shocked - dismayed that would happen here - NOT!
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Comment

I beg to differ with you, but this topic has been brought up before on these pages; and like you did, the complaint was minimized and ignored.   What does the patients being former Miami Springs residents have to do with it?     Is that like saying that if you are a Miami Springs resident is OK to speed in Miami Springs?    Lame, lame, lame!
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Comment

Probably a majority of the residents of Fair Haven are prior residents of Miami Springs or relatives of residents. The previous post is the very first complaint that has ever been made public in years.
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Complaints

The list of complaints on these pages is staggering and in some cases bogus and politically motivated.     What amazes me is the lack of interest in the negative impact of Fair Heavens in that neighborhood area to the south and east of it.   The place is a DUMP, unkept, disorganized, a traffic hazard and an eye sore, but all of these complainers are blind to it.    It begs the question; does the holding company that owns Fair Heavens have that much power in Miami Springs and why?
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New Administration

Ditto to the comment below! LOL
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New Administration

Let me see, you have been saying the same BS for the past 20 years and still cannot get your nayesayers on Council. Keep it up one day it will come. hahahahahahahahahahahahah
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New Administration

Until we do not have a NEW administration that will clean out city hall the problems will continue.
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Theater

It-s probably part of their project! Worry about Homes used as Hotels now that-s a problem.
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Theater

Did the developers pull a permit or something to allow that mess these street contractor are dumping onto their property. I think I had all the debris I will be fined. Another p  for the developers
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Rental

Even if someone is renting their home, they still have to folllow code. A dozen cars would be illegal.
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Pool

Anyone with eyes to see can see that the pool is too small for the demands from the community. The kiddie section is great. No one will complain about that. The slide was closed. Cl es were going on meaning there-s no place to actually swim. 6 people were sharing one lane. That-s just not enough room. This is the kind of disaster that happens when corruption gets involved instead of common sense. And then the city wonders why no one believes in their projects. What-s funny is that it would have probably cost $200,000 more to make the pool right minus corruption payments. Meanwhile a block down, there-s no hesitation spending $300,000 to change the tot lot, again. Also, we got big money from the state for the senior center. Why didn-t they get money from the state to make the pool right? One word: corruption. Once the state is involved, they actually audit the dollars. I love this town, but the government stupidity and corruption is beyond my comprehension.
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Code Enforcement

I-m still surprised the city allows a box truck in the 300 block of Plover.
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Canal Clean up

Maybe if those homeless people werent living under the pedestrian bridges on both ends by the Theater, there wouldnt be so much litter to clean up. Somebody in the city needs to do something. And doing number 2 into the canal is very concerning
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Apartments & Homes as hotels.

The way the last 10 years our city council has permitted this city-s demise has been evident in 10 - 15 cars parked all up and down our side walks and curbs, the deliberate neglect of the Eldron Dr. area is more than evident, this is all under their ulterior motive to make them all Hotels or apartment complexes. Private homes rented by the hour or day to anyone willing to pay. They use Code Enforcers as a weapon it seems like they target people for stupidities like removing or replacing a toilet and ignoring 12 cars parked all over side walks and commercial things going on in homes without permits.
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Apartments

There-s a HUGE push to build a bunch of apartments as if the apartments will be a great benefit to residents, NOT.
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Miliam

Better hope Miliam dont close because people boycott. Would you prefer a developer coming in a buying the property to build more apts. I-m sure Espino is salivating for that you too
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12 cars

Curtiss and Deer Run, I-m sure whom ever said it-s a lie, cant count that high.
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Gated

Springs is not a gated comunity and will never be a gated comunity.
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🙌 #Team Roach 🙌

Roaches deserve to live too people. I-m sure the ones complaining are grosser and have more germs on them then these poor creatures. Stop Discriminating and GET A LIFE ! #TeamRoach
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Make the Springs Gated?

Sure.     Purchase all of the Miami Dade County roads like North and South Royal mPoinciana, Curtiss Parkway and NW 36 St; build a multi million dollar fence, have your own fire department and a couple other minor details.     It is important that you get back on your meds and give mommy back the lap top.
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Paving

We are definitely going to lose our green traingle and blend in with the airport if we continue to let residents pave their whole back yard. Eliminating majority of green space so they can fit a pool, another livable structure in the back, etc. Its getting out of control
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Make the Springs Gated?

Curious...Has there ever been any talk of making the Springs a gated community?
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Eldron Fairway

Nothing new. That-s been a dump for decades. Still a problem today.
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12 cars

the max i-ve seen at a home has been 8 cars, not 12 yet. but i guess i wont doubt
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12 cars

OMG, you must be living under a rock. Lots of homes have multiple families living in them here in Springs. It-s gotten out of control.
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uber driver carjacked - in miami spring?

go herald dot com front page, sad as heck what happen in our once beauty cirty. i like the clues "Some of the clues left behind included a gl  pipe, a syringe and needle, Victoria’s Secret spray and pink phone charger." I-ll go check Westward Drive
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Code Enforcement

What house has 12 cars. You lie !
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water project

this was requested for future project in mind at that time and now it has been accelerated for for the theater project and others. Please ! who are you fooling
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water project

those posting here that the water project is for the theatre proect are LIARS and postin misinformation, Go to link below so you can see this project was requested by WASA back in 015 NOT THE CITY, o stop with your BS https:  www.miamisprings-fl.gov sites default files fileattachments community page 30601 pir-_miami_springs_-_12_-inch_wm_ms_water_line_2.pdf
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Code Enforcement

To the Code enforcement Dpt. Is it legal to have 12 vehicles in a three bedroom home? I-d be checking tags to see whom they are registered to. Now go do your job and stop looking to fine anyone that changed a toilet.
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WARNING

To the ladies speeding and texting on Westward drive down town area. You are going to kill someone; I just hope is one of your own family members.
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Well

Of course ! Somebody in the city who has the developers number must have called him to ask if it was ok to store the equipment there or they just knew they could. Wonder if its legal ?!?. This street construction is for the theater project and for other more bigger projects Espino, Bain, Garcia, Alonso are salivating for. This was ordered and planned by them. We still have 1yr and 9 mth left with this corrupt administration. Be an high Alert
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Well

Has anyone ever noticed how the company doing the public work on canal St. uses 1Curtiss as storage??? weird normally private property is respected by the city, if I lay 1 branch 1 4 inch inside my property it doesn-t get picked up.
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Iguanas

Killing the Iguanas would be a good start as long as it is followed up by getting rid of the dammed ducks as well.
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