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Council

Yeah, don-t hide information from the council. Why would they purposefully do that?
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Mayor Council

The mayor and council members should be very upset if incomplete plans were presented to them. It does seem like certain information was withheld intentionally and they should ask how it happened.
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Inconsistent Code

Surprised Espino didn-t fix that already.
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Either Way

Either way, the building is too tall. If you go with the coping definition, the parapets are too tall. Even, if you don-t count that, the stairwell roof is too tall. Easily remedied with a variance.
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Typical

City-s own code isn-t consistent.
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definitions

There are two definitions one under Building height and another under Height of building!!!
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Definitions

From Municode: "The vertical distance from the grade to the highest point of the coping of a flat roof or to the deck line of a mansard roof, or to the mean height level between eaves and ridge for gable, hip, and gambrel roofs." The flat roof of the garage is too tall. The Parapets are 42 feet. It has to go for a variance.
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Definitions from Code

Height of building.The vertical distance from the grade to: (a) The highest point of a flat roof. (b) The deck line of a mansard roof. (c) The average height between eaves and the ridge for gable, hip, and gambrel roofs. (d) The average height between high and low points for a shed roof.
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Variances

There have been NO variances requested and none planned. They should have been submitted during the first Zoning and Planning meeting.
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Meeting 50 Apartments

Everyone should stop riding a dead horse! It-s a done deal just live with it and make finding parking a sport. Enjoy!
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Meeting

No. The next step is the building and permitting process. That-s when the variances will come up.
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Meeting

didnt
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Meeting

Since Council did get all the information wouldnt it make the meeting approval invalid. It would have to be done again
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50 Apartments

More important to me than a foot or two of stairwell is the lack of parking. Do they really intend to build 50 apartments without building any parking? What kind of idiot at the city approved this? This city was a huge pain in my   when we built a deck and a pool. Code enforcement made us spend thousands of dollars extra out of their own sheer stupidity and now they are just going to overlook the lack of parking for 50 apartments? If the developer isnít going to provide parking for the residents and visitors to the apartments, the building permit should be denied, period. Why do the councilmembers bend over backward to overlook problems with this development when city code enforcement is infamous for being picky and a pain in the   when a citizen needs to make changes to our homes? Perhaps money is being exchanged under the table to help councilmembers overlook these problems.
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Development

It took the Miami Springs Historical Society almost 5 years to get final architectural plans approved to renovate the interior of a building. I donít understand why 50 apartments have been approved so quickly in spite of so many residents not wanting more traffic for the circle that already has too much traffic at certain times of day, nor does it provide the needed parking spaces. Taxes on this structure may provide more money for the City, but the residents are affected adversely.
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Interesting

Whatís even more interesting is that this height dimension, which was provided to the Planning and Zoning Board, was excluded in the do ent prepared for the City Council.
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Sad

Ignorance is bliss.
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Building Height

I read the article TOO BIG and it references the city do ents. It do ents city code. The roof as determined by the city includes the highest point of the coping.
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Feds

Foeget the State Attorney. We need Feds involved. Thereís nothing like a Federal probe.
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Corruption

State attorney is waiting for your call . Better hurry and call with all your facts. Lol Yea I thought so. Cricket lol
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Comment

Th city officials, including the chairman of the Zoning board and the city planner, have been pushing this project all along. The facts do not lie and obviously this project does not meet the requirements of the city codes. Variances are definitely required before this can proceed any further.
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The Plans

Are you saying the plans are wrong? The roof of the garage stairwell does not exceed 40í? The parapet does not exceed 40í? Come on now? I trust a report citing the actual plans than the government that is allowing this monstrosity?
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Building Height

Are you saying that Nestor is telling lies ? Hes has a pretty good record of stating the facts. So I dont know what you mean
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Building Height

You think the building does not meet code, do what you have to! Make sure you know what you are talking about before you make a fool of yourself. Dont listen to the architect, planner, and all around know it all Nestor
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FBI

know of of any wrong doing ? send tips to the Miami FBI headquarters
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charter

why did Bain say in one of the meetings that building height are restricted because of the charter. Thats how we are protected. How can a varience be acceptable. So many lies. I cant keep track any more
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Lies

Remember when they sold us on the Greene Chiropractic building being a 1.7 FAR. What a bunch of lying schemers. Truly disgusting liars.
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Variance

The variance itself should be a simple up or down vote and you-re done. The question isn-t whether it needs a variance or not, but why didn-t this come up earlier?
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Variance

It does matter! foot here a foot there. next thing you know we are going to have huge building surp ing 3 stories or 40-. If Shoma gets in here, he will build over 3 story. He usually gets his way.
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Theo

I hope Theo-s okay.
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Variance

The downtown variance request is minor in the scheme of things.
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Variance

So Palmetto project was declined variances ...so are they going to decline the Theater if they apply ? If they dont, then it should be easy for every developer to get variances. Its only fair right !
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Rules

Yes, you can ask for a variance to build whatever you want, but it would need to get approved. I think that-s the issue. The violation did not go through the variance process and it should. The variance seems minor, but that doesn-t take away the need to follow the process.
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Height

Ok so let me get this straight. So if someone wants to build a 5 story building in downtown, they can apply for a variance ? So there is a chance for developers to over build ? So what is this Charter all about then
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Downtown Development

That property has so much more opportunity to benefit the community than an apartment complex. How about an entertainment complex? Miami Springs is residential heavy. We have a lack of commercial tax base. We needed more commercial not residential. What a bunch of morons. Are these apartments going to attract high net worth residents? Of course not. It-s going to attract a transient apartment crowd. Nothing wrong with the people who will live here, but it doesn-t make Miami springs better.
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Median South Royal

How are all the driveways for the condo buildings and homes going to be addressed?? Some of them have in and out driveways.Are drivers going to have to go to the end of the street and make u-turns to access their property?? This seems to be a huge expenditure for no valid purpose. Just another reason this city has one of the highest tax rates in the county.
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Height

The height wonít stop the project but it does need a variance.
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Dirty Fat No Neck Espino

What will he do next ?!?
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Charter

charter doesnt allow this height for the theater. People must vote
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S.c.u.m Espino

No Worries. Espino will make sure the project is withdrawn. Then he will introduce a district overlay change and then the developers will submit the project again. They do this in Hialeah all the time !...but do i smell a lawsuit coming now ! So many slip ups
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Median

City is spending $750,000.00 dollars on a median? They sure are generous with our tax money for something that is not needed.
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Height

Well that was shady.
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Charter

What does the Charter say in regards to height restrictions ?
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Theater Building

So if the Building is over 40- doesnt it have go through a Vote by the people. and Not a varience ?
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Change

The winds of change are blowing hard in Miami Springs; I beg your pardon, Hialeah Springs.      Should have seen this one coming with the Garcia Sosa partnership.
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Too Tall

LOL. The building is too tall and no one said anything?
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Gateway

Watch and see. No one thought the council would actually act against the citys best interest
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Disappointed

I-m disappointed at how our government bent over backwards to give this development everything they wanted so that residents could enjoy more friggin apartments. Wow. What a joy. what I always wanted. More density in a low density town. These are a bunch of mother effers.
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Dirty

This is a dirty deal and everyone knows it.
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Garcia

How interesting that this s.c.u.m Garcia is now friends on facebook with Carlos Alonso one of the developers that bought the Theater property. Because before they werent friends. Could there be future deals in play with this city for more destruction? I-m more than sure Garcia is talking to property owners to sale there property (especially the larger lots). Hope no one listens and hold strong. And I hope the owners will tell all they were contacted by these s.c.u.ms
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Downtown Development

50 apartments in that little space?
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Bees

Nobody should ever call "Willie the Bee Man" to save bees. This company has morphed into a greedy money making company instead of saving the bees. He will give you all the excuse not to save them. He makes his money killing the bees. Its faster for him. And if he does tell he will save it, he wont, but you wont see it. Trust me i know.
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Nightingale

Miami Springs - Tree City NO MORE...
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Comment

Karma is real and can care less about your age !
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Comment

says the idiotic punk ! or is this h.o.mo garcia
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Comment

Not all trees. Palms, fruit trees Melaleucas, Australian Pines and Ficus don-t require a permit as they are not protected.   Interesting thing about private ownership and rights and other people trying to dictated what you can do on your property.   Too many old busy bodies around here with no lives. . . . Paging the Reaper. . . .
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Comment

Even Miami Springs requires a permit to remove trees
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Comment

Miami Dade County requires you apply for a permit before you can cut down trees
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Nightingale

I-m sure they did. This resident on 11OO block of Nightinggale just moved into our city 2 years ago had 2 trees on their property removed. So I wont doubt it was them that removed that Olive Tree. Cant understand why someone would move into our community if they dont like trees. But of course the city does nothing they actually encourage residents to remove trees and they will even help too
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Nightingale

Come over and take a look at my g.r.a.s.s in the front and back. But I-m i the one who was able to get the Large Olive Tree removed on city property becasue it bothered me 🤔
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Pollution

says the idiotic punk
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Pollution

Sign pollution, light pollution, save the iguanas, the ducks, the cats= OLD PEOPLE WITHOUT A LIFE POLUTION!
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wow

Go Hawks!
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Burritoville

Why didnt they put in a bid???
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Apple Dental

Those nights lights are horrible. This is not south beach. Our city will be no more. If this continues.
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Burritoville

I agree 100%. Burritoville should move to the Country Club and stay there. It will be a hit for them and the golf course. this is a no brainer
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Lights

Those lights have been there for years. where have you been. I dont like them either
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Lights

who is approving this ? Was this talk about in one of the council meeting? It looks so ugly !I havent seen it at night but im more than sure it lights up white like a industral factory. South Dr has smaller light post and they are spaced out properly. it nice. This needs to be stopped. Im telling you we need a new adminstration next election this cant continue and it needs to be removed. signs and lights
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Light Pollution

I couldn-t agree more. I-m okay with path style lighting for Curtiss Parkway and Ludlam. I despise the ugly street lights they used on North Royal Poinciana. It-s a beautiful thing to live in a dark neighborhood. It-s good for wildlife and for humans. If you-re concerned about walking at night, bring a flashlight. If you-re concerned about driving, use your high beams. We do not need more lighting in the residential area.
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City Lights

Why are there so many new lights by N. Poinciana and close to Hammond. Its Ridiculous !!! That to many lights. Im getting tired of these new resident coming in here wanting more lights because they cant see. Really ?? Move!!! why did you buy a home here ???? I dont want my city looking like other city all lit up. We have sign pollution and now we are heading into having light pollution and blending in with our neighboring cities.
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Worse

I think the Senior Center might be the only thing that actually improves.
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Over The Top

Dude, chillax. the new building is going to bring more problems, pero no pa tanto.
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Theater

Of course city officials and all the low lives residents which are Garcia Posse will celebrate the opening of the center at the beginning. But soon after, this place will be empty and this place will be full of crime...you name it drug dealing, p  by ing, sexual  aults, domestic voilence, animals sacrifice...that garage will be heaven for all these crimanal to hide out and perform other deals.
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Theater Project

The retail will be rented out initially and so will the apartments. This will cause an immense problem with parking. Everyone, including city officials, agree that parking in Miami Springs is going to get worse, not better. The pool got worse. The tot lot got worse. Now parking is going to get worse. Does anyone see a pattern here?
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THEATER PROJECT

To the idiot who posted the previous post if you have empty storefronts and overpriced apartments (also empty because they are overprice) where is the worse traffic coming from?
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Theater

This project is a done deal. Construction will start soon as Sabores has already left with the last business next. Then the city will be stuck with overpriced apartments, empty storefronts and an even worse traffic nightmare.
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Theater

So I hear they are planning for demolition at the beginning of the new year. These low life developers i so confident that everything will be smooth sailing. We can only hope someone with plenty of money can buy this property and build something else
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Bathrooms on East Dr?

Does that property not belong to the Miami Dade County School Board? Let the people; soccer league, baseball, etc. raise the money and build it, The city installed an illegal portable stop sign for them already. I am sure not going to get any use out of it.
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City Cheerleaders

No matter what they come up with it-s going to be crazy expensive, when they built the restrooms on East Dr. well any normal citizen could have built a multilevel luxury home for what they spent on two toilets and a sink, forget what they spent on a pool for two year old-s, and so on. But their big payout is still to come, they salivate every time they see the green patch on the Golf Course. They have already tried several times to build on it and the residents have stopped them, but like a cancer it will show it-s ugly head again.
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Logic

Logic makes no sense.
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City Cheerleaders

Don-t ever threaten the money that funds the city cheerleaders. All hell breaks lose.
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Silly rabbit

Instead of moving the building over for the parking lot, put the parking lot in the green space between the batting cage and the tot lot.
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Smart

You know more than the architects and senior center consultants that designed the new building? You should be an architect!!! There was no way to "build" around the tot lot, the building would have been much smaller!
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Facts

That-s the cost of residents not wanting the center built by the Mansion and have it built at the current location!!!
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Smart

Smart architects would have designed the parking in the green space next to the tot lot so that the tot lot would not need to be moved. But again, the city is run by idiots who take advice from more idiots. Idiots who are geniuses at making money on our backs.
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Facts

Just the facts bro. Yeah, $110,000 for rubber flooring is expensive. But bruh, putting in the playground cost $300,000 3 years ago. Now the city is going to spend that amount again to simply move the playground? Why not design the senior center around the playground? That would have saved the city $300,000! No business blows money like this. You know what it is to spend the salary for 3 cops to just move the playground. Stupid stupid stupid. The city is run by a bunch of incompetent idiots. WTF? Who would invest $300,000 into their own home and then spend another $450,000 to move it? Seriously? This is some seriously stupid spending that only government would even consider. So let me get this straight. The City of Miami Springs playground is going to cost $750,000 to replace what the residents did for what? Like $50,000? And then you wonder why people think this city is corrupt. WTF? The tot lot is a 3 quarter million dollar waste of money.
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Money

Why don-t you get the full facts and stop posting misinformation here!!! The $437,000 cost is not for moving the playground only!!! It includes a new rubber poured surface instead of mulch, that alone is $110,000, there will be new swings, and yes some of the original parts will be used but not all since once you take them apart some parts cannot be re-used. It will be a completely reconfigured playground with many new features while maintaining the original look. If you would have attended the last meeting, all of this was discussed. So stop spreading lies here!!!
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Hawk

Who is that resident that said on TV that we need to get rid of the Hawks. WTF is wrong with him ?!? Maybe he should move to elsewhere
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MONEY

Again, who in their right mind thinks it-s okay to spend half a million dollars to move the playsets? This city has gone bonkers?
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Median

What the heck is $750,000 for the South Royal Poinciana median project From East Drive to LeJeune Rd. ?? What are they going to do there?
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Tot Lot

This Billy sure is scamming his way with this Tot Lot. And of course he learning last time from what this s.c.u.m. Garcia did to cash in. Who in the hell is going to believe this absurd cost? Do your Homework and find out by other companyswhat the cost is. After, give a call to the FBI and the IRS
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Tot lot

It is really hard to believe that this group of politicians are going to spend this huge amount of money to move the tot lot. The volunteers that built it would really be upset if they knew about this. Another kiddy pool, $10,000 per month AC for the gym and the unused bike path on Westward. And of course the divided roadway on South Royal which is next. Only in Miami Springs would these fiascos even be considered.
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Theo

 s. wish him well
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Theo

oh man, I hope he recovers...poor guy...
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Theo

many issues mainly severe brain damage from multiple sclerosis immune system is whack. dude weighs about 130 pounds and looks like he is 80. looks worsty than bob best and that is bad!
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Theo

whats wrong with theo
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Nestor theo

nestor is your best bet. theo fighting for his life , may not live 30 days. last leg. prayers for him.
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$200k ????

I could have any 80 year old that has ran a business their whole life give him the city managers job for two years and you will see things done for less than half the money, in this town, well that-s only if the other city officials don-t poison him first.
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Tot Lot

Theo? Nestor? WTF?
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Tot Lot

Wait a second. I just read this: The new Prince Field tot lot estimated to cost $319,000 and built with plastic instead of wood is set to re-open this Friday. This was dated May 2016 or 3 years ago. How the halibut is moving the existing playground going to cost us more than what we paid for it in the first place? $450,000????
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